Evolution is the fundamental idea in all of life science, in all of biology. According to Bill Nye, aka "the science guy," if grownups want to "deny evolution and live in your world that's completely inconsistent with everything we observe in the universe, that's fine, but don't make your kids do it because we need them." Don't miss new Big Think videos! Subscribe by clicking here: http://goo.gl/CPTsV5 -- Transcript: Denial of evolution is unique to the United States. I mean, we're the world's most advanced technological—I mean, you could say Japan—but generally, the United States is where most of the innovations still happens. People still move to the United States. And that's largely because of the intellectual capital we have, the general understanding of science. When you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in that, it holds everybody back, really. Evolution is the fundamental idea in all of life science, in all of biology. It's like, it's very much analogous to trying to do geology without believing in tectonic plates. You're just not going to get the right answer. Your whole world is just going to be a mystery instead of an exciting place. As my old professor, Carl Sagan, said, "When you're in love you want to tell the world." So, once in a while I get people that really—or that claim—they don't believe in evolution. And my response generally is "Well, why not? Really, why not?" Your world just becomes fantastically complicated when you don't believe in evolution. I mean, here are these ancient dinosaur bones or fossils, here is radioactivity, here are distant stars that are just like our star but they're at a different point in their lifecycle. The idea of deep time, of this billions of years, explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your world view just becomes crazy, just untenable, itself inconsistent. And I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, in your world that's completely inconsistent with everything we observe in the universe, that's fine, but don't make your kids do it because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need people that can—we need engineers that can build stuff, solve problems. It's just really hard a thing, it's really a hard thing. You know, in another couple of centuries that world view, I'm sure, will be, it just won't exist. There's no evidence for it. Directed / Produced by Jonathan Fowler and Elizabeth Rodd
Nicholas Christie-Blick: Melvin Goodrum was exposed very definitively as a liar on Sunday, 18 June, 2017. The lying continues this morning. Accusing others of his own sorry behavior only compounds the offense.
Evotard Exterminator: Today's Creation Moment
Progress In Technology
“And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.”
I was talking to a group of young children, perhaps 10 or 11 years old, and they were looking at a partly mud-covered house. This house had got covered in mud at the time of the 1980 eruption of Mount St Helens. Meanwhile, close by was a fridge, which had been washed out of the house, at the time of the mudflow. One boy was incredulous. “Did they really have fridges in 1980?”, he asked, genuinely shocked.
We all had a laugh at this. Yes, I confirmed, there were indeed fridges in 1980. However, our lives were hard, because we couldn’t report to the world on the details of our lives, using Facebook or Twitter. We were not carrying smartphones around with us in the 80s, so we were not permanently connected to the Internet. How did we get by without such technologies? Did we not experience deprivation?
Of course we did not, because we had no notion that such things would come about. So, technologically speaking, the world is getting better and better, while we see the world sinking downhill fast in terms of its moral standard.
Technological progress has always been available to us. Even before the Flood, we read about people like the sons of Lamech, who were pushing forward the boundaries of technology in husbandry, metallurgy and music. This is a part of the way God has made us, and we should thank Him for it.
Thank You, Father, for all the technology that we have. We are aware that we can use it for Your glory, or we can misuse it. Help us to glorify Your name, through our use of technology. Amen.
arthurjeremypearson: If it's a lie that Evotard is a troll, the next time he finds ANYTHING about this argument amusing, he needs to SHUT THE FUCK UP before he embarasses himself, or find the humility to apologize afterward.
acidbath32: check out Ron Amitron
arthurjeremypearson: Evotard Exterminator has committed suicide of reputation. Behold his corpse:
_"You are aware that the whole world is laughing at you" "HA HA HA HA! These vastly inflated ages are comedy gold" "I have taken pleasure in destroying you atheists" "there is something entertaining in you, which is why I keep bothering with you." "I am here to have fun" " I am merely having fun at your expense." "destroying you atheists"_
All his words 100% true. His intent is fun, not education, not study, not humility.
Gary Bell: What if Giggler's all seeing eye is wrong... again? How will she wipe her own ovum from her two faces? Let's standby to screenshot Giggler's heartfelt apology to Jeb Stuart for breaking the ninth commandment, coming soon...
Jatz 07: How's the walk on water crowd doing, still lying their arses off.
Nicholas Christie-Blick: Melvin Goodrum has yet to produce even ONE article from the scientific literature supporting any claim he has ever made. The reason he has failed so consistently is that he is lying. He is aware that he is lying. Opinion pieces downloaded from creationist websites like Creation Moments are uniformly bogus. They have nothing whatever to do with the scientific literature.
jebstuart: Bonito's habitual dismissal of information from a Berkeley web site written at a high school level while failing to ever explain anything ever about any alternative to evolution in her own words is clear cut proof that she has a zero personal understanding of evolution.
jebstuart: "HOW DO YOU EVEN KNOW that DNA mutations had ANYTHING TO DO with the extremely diverse and disparate morphologies on full display in the fossil record"
One reason fundies don't make it as detectives.
This is another reason - "your "impassioned" rush to dissociate yourself from the recent posts by Another one true god is a nice, tidy bit of evidence that this user is you""
jebstuart: How irrational to assert that if something in nature is unpredictable, our inability to predict it's occurrence is actually a 'WEAKNESS' for our explanatory framework!
Only someone with an explanation of the designed unpredictability could make that claim. We await that explanation.
jebstuart: Miss Bonito, your "impassioned" rush to dissociate yourself from convergent evolution is a nice, tidy bit of evidence that you accept it fully.
jebstuart: 2017 (Gigglebritches) "your "impassioned" rush to dissociate yourself from the recent posts by Another one true god is a nice, tidy bit of evidence that this user is you""
Compare that with :
2015 (jebstuart)"Why would I want to prove I'm not a woman?"
(Gigglebritches) "So you are a woman. You lose!"
This is why fundies can't be used on jury duty.
jebstuart: It would appear that 'selective pressures' have led to the extinction of Miss Bonito's sock accounts, "633495", "Peyton Manning", "trashtalkfunk", "eco no boober", "suddenlyitsobvious", "John Wick", "evolution is blind chance", "chocolate coated reason", and too many more to mention. Niiiiice!
jebstuart: "God is REAL. He left something for Us to find on top of Our Planet. I found it several years ago and that's why I created my YouTube Channel" - Hush Whisper.
Is it not objectively true that 'Hush Whisper' is one of reverend Bonito's many sock accounts?
事実は事実です: +Atharkas: "The fact that it is unpredictable seems rather to be a strength of evolution for it imply its unguided nature which, in turn, can lead to the ride of new mean of survival (sic)."
How irrational to assert that if something is unpredictable, our inability to predict it's occurrence is actually a 'STRENGTH' for our explanatory framework!
...oh, and could you please do something about your broken English?
Hydrogen Peroxide: Convergence - just one more reason to be highly skeptical of the 'theory' of evolution.
Magnus Carlsen: ergonomover: So if you don't have the requisite DNA from extinct fossilized creatures, then HOW DO YOU EVEN KNOW that DNA mutations had ANYTHING TO DO with the extremely diverse and disparate morphologies on full display in the fossil record, ergonomover? Hmm?
Magnus Carlsen: It would appear that 'selective pressures' have led to the extinction of Stuart's sock account, "Another one true god."
Magnus Carlsen: +materialists: You need homology and genetics of extant organisms to be true to validate common ancestry (evolution) of long extinct organisms, yet the veracity of homology and genetics totally depends on the common ancestry (evolution) of those extinct organisms being true AT THE SAME TIME! Evolution is true because of homology + genetics. Homology + genetics is true because of evolution. Circular reasoning. X is true because of Y. Y is true because of X.
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